Before we get to this unbelievably amazing and depressing interview, let’s talk facts about Destiny‘s upcoming expansion, “The Taken King” (which probably stars doesn’t star Liam Neeson).

“The Taken King” will come in several different versions, including ones bundled with the original Destiny campaign. Now, the Collector’s Edition features content, like emotes, that you won’t be able to find literally anywhere else. They are reserved solely for those who purchase the Collector’s Edition of this game. It will cost £80/$80, and includes the base game and its two original DLC packs. Right, so, you’ll have to double dip in order to get everything.

$80 does not equal £80, of course. Right now, the rate is more like £80 equals $126. Wowzers.

Enter Eurogamer and Bungie’s Luke Smith, Creative Director for “The Taken King.”

Eurogamer: So it may seem like a small thing but you’re adding exclusive content to the game – three new dance emotes – that players can’t get unless they rebuy the main game and the two existing DLCs. Is that right?

Luke Smith: There is no way right now for you to get the new dance emotes without doing that. Those are Collector’s Edition exclusive. We’ve set some stuff aside for that edition specifically to really make it appeal to fans who have engaged with the game already and also to people that will enter the game this autumn.

Dance emotes may seem so small and trivial to those outside of Destiny, but they present a great opportunity for fun and communication in the game. Heck, I probably danced more than I shot guns while I was playing, though I admit that I’m a bit odd.

Eurogamer pushed Smith on the cost of the expansion, which is $39.99/£39.99 in its base digital form.

Eurogamer: Taken King costs £39.99, which is almost same as base game. Does its content justify that?

Luke Smith: I’m going to use American dollars, because British pounds are just foreign to me…

Eurogamer: Literally foreign.

Luke Smith: Indeed, an ocean away. So, purchasers get a big, rich campaign. Fully voiced cinematics and the story of what happens when an angry alien god wages war on a solar system, all with a satisfying conclusion. You also have a new subclass to pursue and unlock. We also have a bunch of new strikes – we’re not yet talking about how many – and a new raid. We’re showing two new PVP modes and four PVP maps this week, and it’s a fairly safe bet we’re not done yet showing things off. So I’m fairly excited about the value proposition. We’re calling this a major expansion because it is. We’re giving people a whole new place to go, that new destination…

Eurogamer: I get that it is big but it is also the same price as the base game. That had four areas rather than one and more missions than the Taken King. Why is it the same price?

Luke Smith: All I can do is answer that with the same thing I just gave you… We’re really comfortable with the value we’re giving to players this autumn. I believe that once we begin to share more, players will be even more excited. And for existing players it also comes with the Founder’s pack with a new Sparrow, shader and emblem.

Which brought them back to emotes. Smith asserted once more that those were exclusive to the $80/£80 Collector’s Edition.

Eurogamer: Final question on prices –

Luke Smith: Is it also the final question on the emotes?

Eurogamer: I’m not going to mention them again. I can’t get them.

Luke Smith: But you can if you buy the Collector’s Edition.

Eurogamer: I’m not going to buy the game and the two DLCs all over again.

Luke Smith: Okay, but first I want to poke at you on this a little bit.

Eurogamer: Poke at me?

Luke Smith: You’re feeling anxious because you want this exclusive content but you don’t know yet how much you want it. The notion of spending this money is making you anxious, I can see it –

Eurogamer: I do want them. I would buy them –

Luke Smith: If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen.

I’ve done a lot of interviews with devs and PR reps, and they’ve never gone down a path like this. I can’t even imagine how uncomfortable that was, but good on Eurogamer for pressing.


Now, Bungie Community Manager David “Deej” Dague has since responded to the uproar all of this has caused. He doesn’t have anything official to announce, but he did offer that “Year One players won’t get the same perks as people who buy a collector’s edition… They’ll get something better. Tune into the Weekly Update for more.” That comes from Forbes. We’ll see what better really means.

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