Bethesda is starting to talk a little bit about the nitty gritty of Fallout 4‘s in-game mechanics. Specifically, they’re talking about how many levels are in the game.

An official Bethedsa representative spoke with OXM about how leveling works. Each perk actually has levels in itself. Basically, you get your points to spend on a perk, but then the perk has its own XP system in place with level gains.

Here’s the rep through OXM, explaining it better than I can.

“You’ll still level up via XP, and each level increase will still give you a point to spend on a perk, but now those perks have varying XP levels of their own. It’s perk-ception, essentially, and means that, should you theoretically play long enough to max out every tier of every single one gaining untold buffs and no doubt all kinds of horrendous real-world illnesses in the process – you’ll top off with a total of 275.”

Want to max everything out in this game? That’ll require a lot of free time, it seems.

Fallout 4 goes on sale for the PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One on November 10, 2015. We’ll have more on the game as it comes.

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